My good friend Elisabeth Carlson did an article for the Swedish Grøn Ungdom magazine which comes out soon, wherein she interviewed myself along with Haakon Karlsen jr. from the MIT Fab Lab in Lyngseidet, Norway and Jasper Darmark from the Malmø Fab Lab in Sweden. I’ll post a link when it’s up, but be warned, it’s in Swedish
Here are Elisabeth’s questions and my answers, which were used for the article:
Is Fab Lab going to save the world? If so, in what way?
Yes and no. “Saving the world” is a bit vague. What Fab Labs are going to do is break a lot of the assumptions that our society makes about scarcity on the one hand and the boundaries between the activities of individuals and institutions on the other hand.
Fab Labs represent a peer-to-peer model for technological empowerment, education, design, and production, by taking technology that used to cost billions of kronas and bring it down to an intermediate level, cheap enough that every town or every school should be able to afford one. Thirty years from now we’re hoping that everybody can have a molecular assembler in their home, but until then Fab Labs are bringing the technology to people and democratizing innovation.
So that’s one side of the “saving the world” issue. Another interesting one came up yesterday during a discussion. Fab Labs are all over the place, with new ones popping up all the time. They’re all connected in a large informal network, and they all have access to the same digital design tools. One thing that we can do with regards to climate change is to create cheap but powerful networked sensor packages that take measurements of temperature, air pressure, humidity, and various light spectrums, for example, and aggregate them into a global database. This database would grow fairly organically and could become something of a grassroots climate change watchdog system. Knowing exactly what the problem is is one of the first steps towards fixing it, and this can help with that.
How is your work approving, are you just trying to find money for the project or are you building the lab? how is it going to look like when it is finished?
The Fab Lab project in Iceland is being run by the Icelandic Innovation Center (www.nmi.is), with special support from the ministry of Industry. So now that funding isn’t a major issue - it’s always an issue I’m afraid - we’re focusing on building the lab itself and making battle plans for the next year.
When we’re finished building it it’s going to be in a very public place and hopefully we’ll have a flux of people dropping in off the street with great ideas. That the lab should become a hub where great people and great ideas should meet up is our goal. Hopefully there will be a lot of economic activity coming from this, but education is our primary goal at the moment.
Who owns FabLab? Is it Neil? Or is it some kind of board who owns it together?
Nobody “owns” Fab Lab. It started out as a project at Neil’s lab at MIT, the Center for Bits and Atoms, and it started out as an accident. What happened is that when they did an outreach project as part of a grant fulfillment they found themselves overwhelmed by people who wanted to do stuff in labs. Before long they were popping upp all over the place.
Each individual lab is owned by somebody in the local environment. The San Diego lab is owned by a NGO called Heads on Fire. The Vestmannaeyjar lab is owned by the Icelandic Innovation Center. The South African labs are owned by the South African government. In Barcelona the lab is owned by the Institute for Advanced Architecture in Catalonia. Different labs have different owners, and different owners have different focuses: Barcelona focuses on arts and design, the lab that’s being built in Jallalabad, Afghanistan is mostly focused on healthcare, with a sideline to try to spur economic growth and self-sufficiency (or, as Ghandi said it, swadeshi).
Still, it´s not a matter of destroying the massproduction in the world by replacing it, it is more a way how to make your own dreams come true.i e the scream-machine, the girl seems very satisfied with it, but maybe just for a while, what will happen afterwards? Will people still invent STUFF instead of maybe think about what is REALLY missing in their lives i e love.. relations.. family and so on. ???
Mass production isn’t threatened by Fab Labs at the moment. In the future, when molecular assemblers become a reality, there will be far less need for industrial era style mass production; content production (designing objects) and giving/selling them on the Internet has the potential to replace mass production.
Personal fabrication is interesting, but I think it won’t be the key thing forever. While everybody wants to be unique, /things/ aren’t a very good way to express their uniqueness - love, relationships, art, and so on are a far better way to do that.
But there’s a distinct hacker element to all of this. Why design an object in a world of abundance, if not for the love of it? Why work with people half way across the world if not to make new friends and deepen relationships? Fab Labs are about technology, yes. But at the end of the day we always have to remember that technology is about people. Whenever technology is diminishing our ability to love, play, live free and create in harmony with other humans, it is failing its goal.
Since the industrial revolution we’ve seen it fail over and over again - technology being used against people, for example. But what always characterizes malign technology is that it’s not built by individuals but by institutions where group intellects govern. Fab Labs, by democratizing the act of production, are a potential solution to this. If technology is about people, then let the people have the technology.
Is there some kind of timeline of what happened with FabLab since the beginning, in 2001?
Not really. It’s a story worth compiling and telling, but so much has happened that I don’t think there’s really any one person who could objectively compile that story at the moment.
I don´t remember how many hours you get paid for working with fablab every month,please tell me again
A standard working month in Iceland is 173,3 hours, according to national union agreements. I work full time on Fab Labs now, but I get most of my best work done outside the “office hours”, when I’m sitting around having conversations with great people figuring out the next steps. It’s all about people.